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 Post subject: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2009, 3:16 pm 
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When I do a search for Mathematically Perfected Economy, I
notice that the Mises Community has a "discussion" of MPE.

Like true cowards, their link takes me to page 3---that is,
a point in the "discussion" AFTER Mike has signed off.

That really pisses me off. So I typed a rebuttle.

Caveat: I wrote under the name LIBERterryAN.
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Gentalmen,

I've now read this entire thread, from the beginning to the end.
What I am constantly reminded of, over and over again, is a
quote from page 74, of "the Origin of Consciousness in the
Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind", by Julian Jaynes. Jaynes says:

"Greek gods cannot create anything out of nothing, like the
Hebrew god of Genesis."

Here, gentlemen, is what I mean:when our banking system creates
a principal for a loan, out of thin air, as debt, notice how
they haven't created enough money to pay the interest.

So, where does the money to pay the interest, which was never
created in the first place, come from?

Better yet, lets say that were subject to a Gold Standard: If I
loan you money at interest...

Where does the money to pay the interest, which was never
created in the first place, come from?

Question: Why couldn't the Greek gods create anything out of
nothing?

The Answer:Because they never studied Austrian economics!

And here, gentlemen, is a quote from Friedrich Hayek:

"I am more convinced than ever, that if we are ever again going
to have a decent money, it will not come from government. It
will be issued by private enterprise. Because providing the
public with good money, which it can trust, and use, can not
only be an extremely profitable business ... "

Translation: We currently got a monetary scheme, where private
enterprise, not government, charges interest on principals for
loans, which are created out of thin air, as debt---an extremely
profitable business. So, what we need to do is get rid of that
monetary scheme, and replace it with a new, different, monetary
scheme, where private enterprise, not government, charges
interest on principals for loans, which are created out of thin
air, as debt---an extremely profitable business.

Heh heh heh. And the Austrian Monetary Genius didn't even know
that?

So, gentlemen, Friedrich Hayek, the Austrian Monetary Genius,
is a Guppy Fish.

Question: What then, gentlemen, does that say about you?
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Hopefully, those glutons for punishment will take the bait.




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2009, 6:45 pm 
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Oh, they took the bait, alright.

And guess who's getting their butts kicked?

(hint: they're getting their butts kicked.)




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 06 Nov 2009, 9:48 pm 
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Well, you eventually knew, that at around 11:30 pm., ...I would get to
the point of

"user account banned"

didn't you?

Those cowards !!!




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 07 Nov 2009, 4:18 am 
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Well, what do you know...no more review of MPE.

Sorry.

But, it was really when I described MPE...that they became so hostile.

And, Oh yea, I kicked their butts like crazy.

Of course, they've just eliminated the evidence.

How convienient for them.

You wouldn't believe how desparate they were getting.

Oh well. I can't prove what I'm saying, anymore.

Those little slime.




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 07 Nov 2009, 6:34 am 
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Sorry, Mario. I let you down.

But I will learn from my mistakes.

And they WILL pay.

Sorry.

But, it was really when I told them how market-oriented, how
invisible-hand, that MPE was...that they went TOTALLY ballistick.

And, of course, I retaliated.

But, of course, I let you down, Mario.

And I will learm from these mistakes of mine, Mario.

Sorry.

Sincerely, LIBERterryAN.




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 07 Nov 2009, 2:48 pm 
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I'm sorry. What they actually said was that I was

"permanantly banned"

And it was really when I told them how market-oriented---that is, how
invisible-hand oriented, that Mathematically Perfected Economy was...
that made them so irate.

They called me a commie...and all kinds of other stuff.

But, I totally kicked their butts. ...You got my word on that.

See for yourself---that is, look it up.




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 08 Nov 2009, 3:35 pm 
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They emailed me and told me that the thread was locked. So, at least
the thread has re-appeared. I should have kept my cool.

So, I let us all down by getting angry. Sorry.

But, what happenned was this: I got them to behave like cochroaches after
somebody turns on the light: they were desparately scurrying about.

And they know exactly what I'm talking about, too.

Look it up.

So, what I came up with, I think, is a TEMPLATE for shutting them down.

Yea, they're going to call you a commie, and other stuff. But if you
keep holding their feet to the fire...then all they can do is refuse
to let you speak.

Those cowards.




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 18 Mar 2010, 8:22 pm 
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Simple ideas are the hardest to accept, Terry. Don't punish yourself.

Maybe you made a few people think more deeply. If so, you really won.

When I was in the Marines, one of my drill instructors told me, "There will always be that ten percent." He was talking about people that don't go along with the "system."

Thirty some odd years later, I'd make it 25% -- the psychopaths, their sycophants and the hangers on. USURY KILLS. USURY CORRUPTS.

Of course, here I'm defining the "system" as MPE.

You entered a den of vipers -- what outcome did you expect? I admire your courage and conviction for trying. I bet you turned one at least...Good job.




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 Post subject: Re: Those Austrian COWARDS are at it again!
PostPosted: 21 Mar 2010, 2:53 pm 
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Thanks olrailbird for your support. But I get better results going back
and forth with bloggers who support Zarlenga, Cook, and Brown.

Why? I think its because those bloggers are less invested, ego-wise, in
what they believe.

As always, the Austrians use their time-tested "superposition defense".

And "superposition" is a phenomina in molecular physics where some very
small objects are in 2 different places at the same time.

For example, they support the "competing" banks scheme. Which is the same
system that we have now. But with higher rates of interest.

But, at the same time, they give a wink and a nod to the goldbugs.

So which one is it? They never commit.

In doing so, they broaden the support they get. But it's a contradiction!




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