What should concern us is who stands in the way of solution, and why. mike montagne |
NEGATIVE/CONTESTED FEEDBACK EXAMPLE
I’ve been doing battle with “economics” professors and pundits for 30 years. Now that the exploitation system has indeed begun to fall as my thesis of inevitable failure and computer models so long ago predicted, it has been a long time since I’ve received any negative or argumentative feedback, asserting alternate propositions. Not that I couldn’t find naysayers immediately. Ron Paul supporters are the stalwarts of non-solution, regularly advocating a return to the gold standard no matter how many times you prove to them, its impossible; the gold/silver standard cannot sustain unlimited industry/prosperity (which is the principal reason it’s always demoted to fractional reserve implementations); and most of all, the gold/silver standard cannot arrest inherent multiplication of debt ??which of course is the principal cause of failure. I assert in return then that to persist in advocating disproven propositions is the greatest deterrent to solution.
There are people who just “don’t get it,” and there are others still who are stuck on whatever rationalizations buoy them in whatever necessary ways, that they can persist in resisting solution. The following letter which I received yesterday is such an example. I furnish it because it merely trudges again the same steps so many others have taken before them, without even seeing our pages already invalidate its assertions.
Nonetheless of course, I answered the letter because it illustrates the quality or kind of thinking/ego which obstructs from the rest of us (as best it can), what we have to do to avoid utter monetary failure. Ponder then how this person advocates exploitation:
To whom it may concern,
I noticed at the end of the latest email it was said that pfmpe would for a $100,000 do a 100 year mortgage at 0% giving a payment of $83.33 per month….
It then went on to say that this would solve the housing crisis.
Did anyone REALLY think about this statement? What happens to all of the people who just don’t pay and have not taken care of the house? What happens to all of the people who max out their income with payments? There would still be a crisis because people ALWAYS want more. This is not an American situation it is a human situation. People want more and more.
No one would be willing to invest if they cannot get a return on their money but the possibility exists that they could lose it. The MPE will NEVER EXIST it is not in the nature of people to risk with no possible reward.
[respondent]
MY REPLY
Of course someone *really thought* about that mathematic relationship:
Eventually, multiplication of debt makes it impossible to pay; and all along the way of multiplication of debt in proportion to the circulation, it is ever less possible to pay. How do you blame non-payment on the subjects of the exploitation you advocate, when the system itself makes it impossible, particularly at the final states of the limited lifespan of usury?
What “happens” to them under mathematically perfected economy, is they make themselves subjects of a system in which *they always can* pay.
As to your assertion of a crisis where people “always want more,” what are you saying then, but that the exploitation you advocate prevents them from having what they want?
As to wanting more and more irrespective to consequences then, that is the desire of the very exploiter ??who is deprived of the coercive conditions in which they can do so, when the people can pay *their debts to each other* without involuntary servitude first imposed by the nature of the imposed currency, and thereafter imposed by the lack of solubility that currency can only leave them.
You only advocate further exploitation upon the first exploitation; and no one but no one but no one has ever demonstrated how that actually serves mankind, for to teach them alone would certainly far cheaper and less criminal. On the contrary, your very terms expose your want as a dispossession, ostensibly justified only because the dispossessed are no better than to know no better. Evidently then even, you think your advocation makes you better than me, for why should anyone deserve an opportunity to exploit for instance, their own progeny, or oppressed masses, simply deprived by time or other disadvantage from exploiting likewise, in return?
Of course, in mathematically perfected economy?, no one would be willing to “invest” (exploit), because the very chance for *unearned profit* is eliminated. But of course, that’s a just and even necessary purpose, if you are subject to exploitation, and particularly to a terminal form of exploitation; and it’s the exact contrary purpose only of advocates of exploitation ??so why don’t you just say that? We already know who you are.
So, no [respondent], it’s not in the nature of exploiters to exploit when the people are given a way to avoid exploitation for illimitable unearned gain. You advocate that simply because you have no leverage by which to exploit us otherwise.
Your argument therefore is merely a pathological statement: You say you should save humanity from its perpetual want of more, when it is only your perpetual want of more which is the problem. Of course, that’s always been the only argument of exploitation.
It is also the pattern of exploitation that when you exploit the exploited to the degree they can no longer pay… to blame *their* ostensible want of ever more for the eventual insolubility, isn’t it?
Sure, you thought about the same statement. But not well, and quite transparently.
Visit http://www.change.gov/page/s/yourvision to pressure the Obama Transition Team to adopt mathematically perfected economy?. I’m aware the president-elect is hiring all the wrong people; but the fact you demanded representation when you could draws the line between who are the bad guys, and who are the good.
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“To find the players in all the corruption of the world, ‘Follow the money.’ To find the captains of world corruption, follow the money all the way.”
mike montagne ??founder, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy?, author/engineer of mathematically perfected economy? (1979)
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