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Tuesday, November 11th, 2008
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What should concern us is who stands in the way of solution, and why.
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EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH ANDREW GRAZIANO REGARDING SOLUTION
I try to answer as many good questions or thoughts as I can. Members of my private list so much appreciated yesterday’s exchange between Andrew G. and myself that I was asked to publish it to the blog.
These are simple things to understand once you get your brain around the simple concepts of mathematically perfected economy™. We all are constantly refining our perceptions of realities; and the present material is as much as thinking out loud.
As we compose our perceptions (as opposed to opinions), what we are concerned with, if we are to succeed, is not to arrive at a mere opinion, but to refine our understanding into veritable engineering. Principles are the building blocks of engineering; and, as we say, real (true, incontrovertible) principles are only abandoned; they cannot be compromised, because that is to destroy the principle itself. This idea is key to wielding the issues before us in a way in which we will succeed.
Where then do we get confused in reacting to all the alternate opinions which are proposed?
The first thing to do is to question whether they observe the vital principles. After all, if an alternate proposition observes principles which ascertain a fact of singular solution, then there would be no alternate proposition — the observation arrives yet again, by whatever route, at the singular possible solution.
So, we ourselves become confused when, to whatever least degree even, we leave the principle. I say this only because if I were not here, that’s how we would find our way.
EXAMPLE EXCHANGE REGARDING THE FINE POINTS OF SOLUTION
PFMPE™ responses inserted as in original emails:
Andrew Graziano wrote:
Hey Mike,
What if the bailout were used as seed money to fund new small businesses, and none went to the big banks, what kind of effect do you think that would have had on the economy?
Andrew,
We will be helped by expansion; and I’m just responding in these few paragraphs to your one point. But let’s consider all the ramifications of how we expand, etc.:
Existent debt will continue to multiply debt in proportion to the circulation; so, unless we re-finance all debt under MPE, whatever further growth we engender by artificial help against this process (which expression itself tells you we need to solve the cause), the artificially helped growth will fail just as Clinton’s “greatest industrial expansion in modern history” failed.
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So, we must re-finance all debt under MPE to sustain the benefit we are attempting to achieve.
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We don’t need any such bailout under MPE, because MPE will just fund all the new small business as it needs funding.
But yes, then we can just let the “big banks” fail as the natural consequence of their process.
700 Billion, which some say is probably more like a trillion or more. But conservatively say 700 million.
I think you might have a comma or two out of place in the last number.
With *purposed* federal and “federal reserve” distortions not only of the distress which they are using only to bail out the thieves, but of all the related stress (price inflation, unfunded near term federal liabilities, false asset inflation via derivatives… etc.), if you buy into the need for a bailout, you can only come up with impossible numbers to swallow. In any case, we cannot get veritable numbers from the keepers of the data, but we can estimate:
Let’s just start with federal debt (”national” debt): They tell us it’s 10 trillion. But it’s not just 10 trillion.
If it were, with a GDP of $1 trillion and no other costs whatsoever, if we could devote all our industrial revenue to pay off principal on “the” national debt, it would take us 10 years to do so — and, in my opinion, everyone neglecting this problem (perpetuating the present system) is obligated to do so, versus leaving this debt to future generations who will never be able to pay it.
But the real federal debt is far more than this.
Remember, Bill Clinton claimed to have balanced the federal budget.
No real industrial expansion — even by the time the entire dot com boom had collapsed, few ventures had made a penny of profit. All the “boom” really accomplished (and was needed for) was to replenish the circulation. (In fact, I explained this to Clinton when he was elected; and it is to my explanations which he replies falsely in his state-of-the-union address, that he had accomplished something which was to then thought “mathematically impossible.”)
No increase in tax rates or tax revenue.
And no commensurable reduction in federal expenditures.
Hmmmm. How did he “balance” the budget then?
Well, of course he didn’t!
He robbed from other dedicated funds such as social security; and I am told that there was a huge unpublished payment from Kuwait, which forgave us for tremendous pre-existing debt for saving them in the first Gulf War.
Let’s just consider the first of these irregularities, as the second cannot reliably be confirmed.
Several years ago, independent researchers estimated the robbing of other dedicated funds, primarily social security, left us with from 48 to 96 trillion in “unfunded near term federal liabilities” — an evasive term for debt. With interest, we can now estimate the upper end of that scale to be somewhere in the 110-120-trillion range. Let’s just build on that to accumulate an idea of how bad our situation *may* really be.
Add 10 trillion admitted federal debt to 120-trillion “unfunded federal liabilities,” and we have $130 trillion just to start with.
Thus if there were no interest paid to the privatization of the monetary system, with a GDP of $1 trillion that we “could” (we cannot) dedicate solely to principal, it would take us 130 years to pay off near term federal liabilities — *if* and only if we could forestall servicing private debt for so long.
Fat chance.
Some estimate the derivatives issue to conceal as much as 400 trillion in further liabilities.
Are “the markets” then not a pie in the sky?
Private debt is phenomenal as well.
So let’s just say that if we could just service the present principal of real debt we are presently oppressed by, it may take 500 years of GDP all of us now living to do so.
Of course, with interest further multiplying however much of this beyond our means, we can never do so.
But that’s why we must re-finance all debt under MPE — because in doing so, we will credit all debtors for whatever they have paid against the original principal… and this will erase these artificial multiplications of debt.
Assuming out of a population of 300 million, 20 percent elect to receive money from the government, it could either be forgivable loans or loans repaid over 20 years with no interest. 700 Billion divided by 60 million This equals $11,666.66. Maybe my math is trying to tell me something?
Funny.
In the last few weeks of 1978, I was researching a timeline which is supposed to be embodied in the Great Pyramid. It’s purported dates included the year of Exodus, the exact days of the birth, crucifixion, and resurrection of Christ, an unexplained 1914 date, and one or two concluding dates — the first of which may establish a beginning of the biblical “time of the end” in 1979.
By the amazing help of a librarian in California, I was able to acquire rare works of half-a-dozen of the most well known scientists to have measured the pyramid. These incredibly voluminous works pretty much correspond to their personal notes on how every measurement was taken. The usual accuracy ranged from at worst a thousandth of an inch, to as fine a granularity as a small part of a ten-thousandth.
This timeline is a theoretical system anchored at one end by two opposing inscribed lines in the descending passage. The purpose of these accurately aligned features was an obvious curiosity; and, given all the surrounding phenomena, it is natural to eventually suppose they may anchor a timeline, the dimensions/units of which would be given by the one symbol falling on the 1979 date.
The descending passage happens to align with the North Star Draconis at some specific moment in (if I recall correctly) 2121 BC. Hypothetically presuming the scribed lines thus anchor the datum point of the time line to this moment in time, engenders the prospect of the time line; and, to my surprise, all of the varied works concurred from this hypothesis indeed to give the dates given as the year of Exodus, and exact days of the birth, crucifixion and resurrection of Christ.
Quite phenomenal it was, to go over all the geometry and math and find these different works concurred.
At the resurrection of Christ however, a strange anomaly occurs in the data. All of the men whose works I was studying had come to the pyramid as confirmed agnostics. All of them left absolutely convinced that the Great Pyramid could be nothing less than the product of divine inspiration. And this may explain a very strange thing which, like your math, relates to the number 666.
The resurrection falls upon a dimension which quite oddly, is given uniformly as so many pyramid inches and “one third.”
I was attempting to determine the final event of the timeline; and, of course, encountering this hugely anomalous expression raised the prospect that there would be no credible further determination: what was the actual decimal expression? How many decimal places to account for or calculate by, thereafter? These were serious questions.
But the length of the Grand Gallery, which was to be added to this presumably “indeterminate” marker was *also* given as so many pyramid inches and a third!
So, all at once we had two dimensions which at first cast doubt that we could even calculate the final date(s).
The unexplained 1914 date however becomes a clue how to do the final calculations, if we take the number 666 to be a hermetic instruction to perform the calculations to three decimal places. (I had been carrying out my calculations on multiple parallel paths, with *a* path for the accuracy of every dimension given. [Thank goodness there were few critical dimensions.])
Of course, the idea I was exploring was that the timeline might indicate the moment of ultimate world monetary failure — a time which is said to begin a new order, not as planned by globalization of course, but as an end of a time of dogma and oppression as we now exist in.
In any case, you probably anticipate the incredible thing which the “unexplained” 1914.666 date “may” therefore indicate. The so called Federal Reserve of course was theoretically created in the eve of December 23, 1913. But it could not of course have been *put into operation* until the following year.
Even still, 11k per person and the only condition is you need to start a business from scratch, I honestly believe that would have done more for the economy than any stimulus or bailout. The key to a sustainable economy is creation and self sufficiency.
And I totally agree. The thing is, conversion to MPE not only provides your proposition of an alternate, superior answer to the attempted bailout… it does that in perpetuation, without cost to anyone; and furthermore resolves further multiplication of our existent debt.
By refinancing all debt under MPE, we immediately make something like 80% of our current income available to further prosperity. This itself would contribute substantially to creating and perpetually sustaining further employment and industry. But the further financing not only of that industry, but of its potential consumption — both without cost or multiplication of debt by interest — indicates the degree of prosperity which is immediately possible, with no cost or bailout whatever, under mathematically perfected economy.
So those are good points, Andrew.
Patrick Hedemark Comment
Great Exchange Mike,
WHAT COULD or SHOULD be done to fix all of this mess comes up AGAINST THE single word, WHY!
Both WHY it should BE DONE — and MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHY what should be done is not viewed as WHAT MUST BE DONE — is at the very, very, very heart of the problem — THE REAL SINGULAR PROBLEM.
The “ULTIMATE CAUSE” of the monetary issue — the singular problem — is usury or interest.
The word “interest” is both the functional source of dilemma and the immoral force behind its being forced upon our money as representative agent of the “INTERESTS” of the very men who refuse to accept both the WHAT and the WHY!!!
IT IS GOING TO TAKE FORCE.
PURITY OF PURPOSE + FORCE.
THIS IS THE ONLY METHOD.
Great read,
Patrick
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Tuesday, November 4th, 2008
CONGRATULATIONS TO PRESIDENT ELECT BARACK OBAMA
Congratulations to President Elect Barack Obama, and to Mr. McCain for his fine and heartfelt concession speech. When the ecstasies and disappointments of this campaign wear off, we will need to focus on the meat of matters — not just our new President’s ability to change Washington. Our hope is that Mr. Obama’s presidency will indeed represent ours.
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Tuesday, October 28th, 2008
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In the very same way, your understanding of interest is critical; and if the age we are seeing end has a purpose, that purpose is that you understand interest is usury, and that usury is a pattern which much like Kondratiev asserts, collapses every system of usury until we solve the simple fact usury is a process of inevitable collapse.
That’s why Kondratiev had a pattern to observe.
mike montagne — in “About Interest, Key To The Cycle Of Usury: ‘It’s the interest, stupid, it’s the interest.’”
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.
John Locke, 1690
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THROWING DOWN THE GAUNTLET ON THE GOLD STANDARD (AGAIN)
In a former Ron Paul Meetup forum, a forum correspondent writes only:
In a campaign of quantity versus quality, the so called Ron Paul Movement has bought up every conceivable domain name only implying whatever Mr. Paul and his family of “Austrian Economists” merely claim is “sound money.”
While even Benjamin Franklin long ago (at the age of 23) substantially invalidated the gold standard, and while my work for the last 30+ years emphatically invalidated Mr. Paul’s arguments long before he chose to persist in them, Mr. Paul himself of course has refused to answer once to these arguments in twenty years.
But so, twenty years of evasion therefore establish some unknown prospect or even possibility of returning to the gold standard?
To perpetually assert what is not solution is a perpetual affront to solution.
Thus I reply:
PFMPE™
In my opinion, these late comers to the anti-privatized currency movement, who keep advocating gold despite its obvious faults and impossibilities, are hugely at fault for perpetually infusing public confusion.
There’s a claimed $70 b of monetary gold on hand at the U.S. Treasury — and China, who we owe many times that, has spent much of the last year going after it.
Thanks in fact to the improprieties which gold standard advocates will not answer to, in fact we presently owe many times all the gold in the world. The mere dream of a return to the gold standard therefore is no more than the brain child of the brain dead.
But even more to the discredit of its inept assertions, the “gold is money” movement has been for profit from the beginning — to itself coin unconstitutional money.
Moreover, its ostensible premises were invalidated before it started: Ron Paul, Edwin Vieira, and its other heads were apprised so when some of them asked for my blessing from the very beginning.
All the monetary gold in all the world will not sustain but a fraction of present industry — even of the relatively little industry surviving the present, monumental multiplication of artificial world debt.
Gold therefore will not even solve our debts, should we be so stupid as to further give up the world’s gold for those artificial debts; nor would a return to gold even allow us to continue servicing those artificial debts: Present commerce, obligated to continue servicing present sums of debt, would immediately collapse if the world’s circulations were immediately restricted to what is redeemable in the world’s monetary gold. This preposterous idea therefore — already proven a failure a hundred years ago — merely appeals to simpletons too lazy or self deluded to understand the real problem and rectify it.
Incredibly costly tokens of value are not a blessing: They instead are an incredible misconception which has not staved failure before, and will not stave failure again. It isn’t the cost of the currency which will save us from multiplying debt. It is rectifying the nature of the currency — adopting the one form of currency which cannot and will not devalue.
So if instead we held fast to that principle, then there would not even be a need for the idea of a purported (invalid) capacity to redeem the currency with a finite quantity of a mere material, the quantity of which we have over and over again outgrown. When the music stopped playing under any gold standard — none of which have staved failure — just as it will tomorrow… there weren’t enough chairs.
Nor of course will gold arrest multiplication of debt by interest.
What you should study therefore is the people behind this movement, who are largely “Austrian Economists.”
They believe math cannot be applied to “economics,” not for analysis, not for solution, not for projection.
Instead of recognizing the inherent, irreversible consequences of “interest,” they advocate interest — which multiplies debt in proportion to a vital circulation, as it compels us to replenish the circulation of interest and principal by perpetually re-borrowing interest and principal as subsequent sums of debt, perpetually increased so much as periodic interest.
What do they want then, but to be the private bankers collecting that interest, saying gold will save you from them?
Why won’t Ron Paul answer to the proposition of mathematically perfected economy™? Because he can prove anything else will solve inflation, deflation, and perpetual multiplication of dispossession and debt, by interest?
For crying out loud, [person’s name], usury on such a scale is perhaps the greatest possible crime on the scale it is presently exercised. The wars we are fighting, when it comes down to it, are fought over usury. The American Revolution was over usury. And these advocates of a gold standard which has never saved you and will never save you, want to preserve usury.
Think about that.
This is the solution:
These are the issues of Legality and Rectitude:
AND THESE ARTICLES LONG AGO INVALIDATED GOLD, THE ASSERTIONS OF GRIFFIN, ETC.:

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Tuesday, October 28th, 2008
NEW YORK TIMES FALSELY PROMOTES A FACADE OF GREENSPAN’S HUMILITY
On October 23, proving many years of false assertions itself, a New York Times article, “Greenspan Concedes Error on Regulation,” claimed:
WASHINGTON — For years, a Congressional hearing with Alan Greenspan was a marquee event. Lawmakers doted on him as an economic sage. Markets jumped up or down depending on what he said. Politicians in both parties wanted the maestro on their side.
But on Thursday, almost three years after stepping down as chairman of the Federal Reserve, a humbled Mr. Greenspan admitted that he had put too much faith in the self-correcting power of free markets and had failed to anticipate the self-destructive power of wanton mortgage lending.
“Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity [versus sustainability], myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief,” he told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Of course, “markets” are hardly free if they are subject to a currency which can only multiply indebtedness into terminal sums of debt. In fact all along the way to terminal failure, true producers are deprived to ever greater degrees of just compensation for their production, until of course they are dispossessed even of the opportunity and their right to produce.
But the purported humility therefore is a lie. Greenspan isn’t about to support rectifying the system of its inherent faults. On the contrary, while he feigns apology, he means to ensure the perpetuation of that unjust system. Every president since and including Gerald Ford was offered the opportunity and way to resolve these issues via mathematically perfected economy™. None answered, and particularly Mr. Greenspan, not only because they all knew then that they were wrong, but because despite being wrong, they intended instead to perpetuate the irreversible multiplication of that unearned taking.
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mike montagne — founder, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™, author/engineer of mathematically perfected economy™ (1979)
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Thursday, October 23rd, 2008
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Speak your latent conviction, and it shall be the universal sense; for the inmost in due time becomes the outmost — and our first thought is rendered back to us by the trumpets of the Last Judgment. Familiar as the voice of the mind is to each, the highest merit we ascribe to Moses, Plato, and Milton is that they set naught at books and traditions, and spoke not what men, but what they thought.
A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages. Yet he dismisses without notice his thought, because it is his. In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts: they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty.
Great works of art have no more affecting lesson for us than this. They teach us to abide by our own spontaneous impression with good-humored inflexibility then most, when the whole cry of voices is on the other side. Else, tomorrow a stranger will say with masterly good sense precisely what we have thought and felt all the time, and we shall be forced to take with shame our own opinion from another.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RESPONSE TO CONSTITUTION’S DEFENDERS FOR OBAMA POST
This morning I responded to the following ConstitutionsDefendersForObama post:
Gadzooks! Money Lenders have invaded the Great American Temple of American Democracy! I Say, Let’s Throw the Bums Out Lads!
I’m with you, [previous poster]! Looking at what has happened since Bush and the U.S.. Republican-controlled Congress decided to include The People’s Republic of China in the current abomination of DARWINIAN “FREE TRADE” and “WTO”. Looking at the resulting massive explosion of cheap IMPORTS from China, even giving the Communist Giant “MOST FAVORED NATION” status. Looking at the resulting massive literal EXPLOSION of our TRADE DEFICIT with China..
Looking at the Massive OVERALL Trade Deficit and the Massive exporting of good-paying AMERICAN JOBS, because of the Neo-Con FAITH-BASED belief in “GLOBALIZATION”.
Looking at the Massive increase in BORROWING by both the Federal Gov’t. and the American CONSUMERS, to continue supporting a policy of “LIVING BEYONG OUR MEANS” — i.e. “Eat, Drink, Be Merry” and screw worrying about paying the Piper.
Looking at the Massive increase in borrowing from China & other Foreign Countries that are also investing money from their “SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUNDS” in buying or owning shares of Stock in American companies.
THEN add in the “CRAP SHOOT” on WALL STREET and all the corruption, fraud and MIND BOGGLING stupidity of the BUSH Administration throwing the “MONKEY WRENCH” into everything — screwing up literally everything they touch …
Well, the result of all this is that you and I, ordinary “John & Jane Joe” citizens are S.C.R.E.W.E.D., big-time! Whether NOT having a “Federal Reserve” would have made a DIFFERENCE, I have no idea, unlike HENRY or other “EXPERTS” on the Economy and Financial systems, I majored in FINE ART in College, not Economics!
Putting on my ART CRITIC’s hat, however, I will give my “Expert” Opinion: I look at the current Sub-Prime Mortgage Meltdown and Financial “CRISIS” and I might as well be looking at a Painting by SALVADOR DALI - like the one with the famous “melting clock” — if I were making a Surrealistic Painting of WALL STREET, I would paint the Building to look like it was MELTING, like in a Salvador Dali.
Trying to understand what’s going on is just FRUSTRATING AS HELL! Like trying to underrstand Nuclear Physics or why in the world Republicans are going bat-sh*t crazy over SARAH PALIN!
And “All the Gold in Fort Knox”, for all WE know, is just plain old BRICKS, painted to LOOK they are REAL Gold! That’s MY Theory.
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Dear [poster],
Having asked the questions you have, you are not far from the answer.
You are absolutely right as well that the real nature of the problem is purposely obfuscated. Realize for instance that what is called “economics” is certainly not economic if it produces the effects you point out; and that furthermore, not only is the pretended discipline fraught with internal controversy, it is wholly bereft of formal proof or theorem. That is, unlike any of the true sciences, “economics” doesn’t even have a first precept, giving it the object or purpose of engendering what is “economic.” There is not even a single theorem which establishes the present pseudo science is even sustainable.
While still he sustained himself largely by complying with that pseudo science, John Kenneth Galbraith put it like this:
In economics, the majority are always wrong. [Less protectively, contemporary “economists” lie because the whole, purposed lie of usury and unearned taking is unsustainable in any practical implementation, and because therefore, no intelligent public would ever assent to the dispossession and usurpation which the lies are designed to impose upon them. Thus…] The study of “money,” above all other fields, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it.
Ayn Rand said,
“Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection, and the base of a moral existence.”
You are an artist, and you would prefer not to have to understand all the false dogma the mainstream media feeds us; and of course you hardly have to understand it all.
But because we are a republic, if we are going to solve our problems, we do have to understand the core problem, that we can fix it above a government so corrupt as to be co-perpetrators of what amounts to a monumental crime against us. After all, we readily understand that in nature, we prosper however much our willingness and capability incorporate available resources into production. Without exhausting resources then, the very idea that the whole of the world’s “economies” (a lie from its beginning) should fail itself paints a portrait of a wholly unnecessary and artificial failure. That a renegade government refuses to rectify the problem when we can (and have) prescribed exactly how to do so, furthermore establishes a testament that the problem is intentionally imposed, for a purpose — and that obvious purpose is the vast unearned taking from us, by artificial multiplication of debt.
If you and I were doing business together… perhaps I want to buy a painting from you… and I can’t pay you immediately, you might accept my promise to pay, particularly if it is based on certain conditions which absolutely guarantee that you will be paid.
Under the central banking systems which have been imposed upon the world, a third party, who produces nothing, intervenes on our arrangement. They say, “No, no, no, no, no… you cannot issue your own promises to pay each other: *only* promises to pay issued by the central bank have integrity, because they cost you *further* — they are subject to interest.”
Now you, being the producer of the subject property, are the real creditor. In the first case, you accepted my promise to pay, which was guaranteed by conditions I have not yet stated but will get to in a few more sentences. In the second case, you accept my promise to pay, issued by a banker; and, while *we* might define money differently (and particularly, as an inert, indestructible, redeemable token of value), and while this particular form of money costs the central banker virtually nothing whatsoever to publish, yet we presume there is some risk involved to the false issuer of the promise, which justifies my paying *them* several paintings to acquire your one.
Obviously, you and I are going to engage in less “economic” activity as a consequence of this substantial further cost.
But there is a further problem with introduced by this imposed form of “money,” which is all you have to understand to get at the crux of the present monetary failure.
That is, this imposed form of “money” inherently and irreversibly multiplies debt in proportion to a circulation, so that ultimately the whole system collapses under a sum of debt it can no longer afford to service.
How does this happen?
Under this imposed system (it was never approved by an election; and in fact the prevailing side of the 1912 election voted *against* the creation of “a central bank”), the principal is introduced to circulation as a debt subject to interest. Because the resultant obligation is to pay both the principal (circulation) *plus* the interest (which exists beyond the sum of the circulation), therefore our payments against this monetary obligation of principal and interest perpetually deflate the circulation. That is, we are constantly paying principal *and* interest out of the general circulation, which exists only insofar as a remaining sum of principal. We are therefore perpetually depleting (”deflating”) the circulation moreso than what principal exists.
Furthermore, to continue servicing these monetary obligations, we must maintain a vital circulation.
Of course, because the money only comes from “the central bank,” and because we can only borrow this altered, purposed, artificial form of “money” into circulation, therefore we must borrow back into circulation the principal and interest we pay out of the circulation.
What does this mean?
First of all, it means that to whatever degree we must re-borrow principal, it is mathematically impossible to pay down the sum of debt: The principal we pay down must be re-borrowed, therefore as new debt, equal to the former debt. This aspect of our obligatory replenishing of the perpetual deflation of the system thus always retains the former sum of debt, however much we pay against it.
Secondly however, it means that interest payments too must be borrowed back into circulation; and therefore, because interest payments counted none at all toward the previous sum of debt, thus because we can only borrow them back as new debt… *therefore the sum of debt perpetually increases so much as we have to re-borrow interest back into the general circulation, to maintain a vital circulation*.
Finally then, therefore the sum of debt perpetually increases at inherently escalating rates, so much as the periodic interest on an ever greater sum of debt.
Read it slowly, and you will understand it.
Thomas Jefferson, arguing against the creation of “our” first “national bank” (which Hamilton attempted to create *after* the Constitution was finalized [without a central bank], by *circumventing* the constitutional processes and regulations)… Jefferson put it this way:
If the American people ever allow banks to issue their currency, first by inflation and then by deflation [by having to maintain a vital circulation by perpetually re-borrowing principal and interest as subsequent sums of debt, increased perpetually so much as periodic interest], the banks and [bank owned] corporations which will grow up around them will deprive the people of all property, until their children wake homeless on the continent their fathers conquered.
Of course, that day has come.
Jefferson also said:
“The system of banking is a blot [defect] left in [unsolved by, and unfortunately tolerated by] all our Constitutions [state and federal], which if not covered [eventually solved and revoked] will end in their destruction. I sincerely believe that banking institutions are more dangerous than standing armies; and that the principle of spending money to be paid by posterity is but swindling futurity [on the greatest possible scale].”
“The end of democracy and defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of the lending institutions and [their] moneyed incorporations.”
Some casually laugh at the idea we can perfect “an economy.” But as Kennedy said, as our [few simple] problems are man made, therefore we can [readily] solve them.
In the case of the present facade of “economy,” we have only two very basic issues to solve; multiplication of debt by interest, and inflation/deflation (how much money to circulate).
The first we can only solve by eradicating interest; and the second too, we can only solve by eradicating interest, because interest requires us to pay out of the general circulation, more than exists.
So, how do we solve inflation and deflation?
That problem is elementary: Because each are defined respectively as increases or decreases in circulation per the wealth the circulation is intended to represent, thus the *only* solution for inflation and deflation is to maintain a circulation which at all times is equal to the remaining value of the wealth it is intended to represent.
The only way to do that is to pay off debts which are not subject to interest (ever multiplying unearned profit, taken at no cost whatsoever, by a process which perpetually undermines the integrity of the currency, and ultimately engenders terminal sums of debt)… at the rate of consumption/depreciation of the related assets.
Thus the one and only solution is simple:
In the case of a $100,000 home with a hundred year lifespan, we pay off the home at an overall rate equal to its 100-year consumption or depreciation, which of course comprises an overall rate of $1,000 per year, or $83.33 per month.
Obviously, quite contrary to Mr. McCain’s bogus assertion that we need our house prices to come up (which, under the present system, results instead in our paying to “the central banking system,” lifetime after lifetime for the product of a few months of our own production), what we really need to do is to re-finance all debt immediately, under mathematically perfected economy™.
Here is my prescription for exactly how to do so — how to arrest inherent, inevitable monetary failure under the present system in less than a day:
http://perfecteconomy.com/pg-if-i-were-president.html
I also promised to explain how the artificial, imposed “money” of the central “banking” system inherently undermines the ability to pay off the resultant debts. Perhaps you already understand from my previous explanation, but of course, as the sum of debt is inherently and irreversibly multiplied in proportion to the vital circulation, ever more of the vital circulation is inherently and irreversibly dedicated to servicing an ever greater sum of debt. This of course leaves ever less of the circulation to sustain the surviving industry which is obligated to do so. Thus it is ever less possible to do so all the while of the inherently finite lifespan of every such system; and ultimately it is impossible to do so, because ultimately and inevitably, the entire circulation would be devoted to servicing debt.
Of course, however much further unearned taking is imposed upon us by further parasitic processes (by further entities which produce nothing or take unearned profit by extortion, coercion, subversion, usurpation…), it is the proximity of that final day of inherent, further multiplication of a terminal sum of debt which explains our present circumstance.
Of course, as [previous poster] says, the mainstream media isn’t about to proliferate the truth, because of course the mainstream media is owned by the very perpetrators of this crime against humanity.
As to the constitutionality of it, you should I would hope take some interest in the following evaluation of Jefferson’s Opinion on the Constitutionality of a National Bank, which he wrote for President Washington in response to Hamilton’s (successful) efforts to circumvent the new Constitution to create an entity the founders *purposely* themselves refrained from creating:
http://perfecteconomy.com/pg-evaluation-of-jeffersons-opinion-on-the-constitutionality-of-a-national-bank.html
I will close then with one final quote from Jefferson:
Only lay down true principles, and adhere to them inflexibly. Do not be frightened into their surrender by the alarms of the timid or the croakings of the wealthy against the ascendancy of the people. The true foundation of republican government is the equal right of every citizen in his person and property, and in their management.
In other words, no private “federal” central bank can be endowed with a power above us to publish ultimately irredeemable promises to pay, particularly to take involuntary servitude from us, based on the unqualifiable proposition that the promises, which are our promises, and which the unassented “central bank” produces for nothing, constitute some ostensible risk to the unassented, intervening entity.
Yes, industry prospers particularly well on circulations which can sustain all conscientious development; but under usury, as Jefferson, Adams, Franklin, Jackson, Lincoln, McFadden, and many others told us… all that prosperity is soon swallowed up by the facade of justified “interest.”
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Wednesday, October 22nd, 2008
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Real leadership means to correctly define the actual problem — and then — to correctly prescribe the actual solution.
Patrick Hedemark
In economics, the majority are always wrong. [Less protectively, contemporary “economists” lie because the whole, purposed lie of usury and unearned taking is unsustainable in any practical implementation, and because therefore, no intelligent public would ever assent to the dispossession and usurpation which the lies are designed to impose upon them. Thus…] The study of “money,” above all other fields, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it.
John Kenneth Galbraith
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BECAUSE HE HAS NO BETTER ANSWER…
PAUL KRUGMAN, NOBEL LAUREATE, IRRESPONSIBLY CALLS FOR CONTINUED FISCAL IRRESPONSIBILITY
With a bewildering magnitude of enthusiasm, an EducatorsForObama forum member writes:
[Princeton “Economist,” Paul] Krugman says Obama is correct on [the] Economy. [a] Government must SPEND now to save the Economy. The Deficit is not important right now. This must be the knockout blow to the McCain campaign!
This may be the most important article of this election. Paul Krugman just won the Nobel Prize in Economics a couple days ago and he was the sole winner — very unusual. First US Economist to win in a long time. It sounds a little counter-intuitive, I know. But Obama is right, despite the rantings of McCain, Joe Scarborough, Pat Buchanan and the rest of the GOP. [b] To stimulate the economy and create jobs the Federal Government needs to spend money funding new public works projects like much needed bridges, roads, hospitals, schools, etc. This will create tons of jobs and it is helps the country in the long run because we are investing in our infrastructure. The dumb thing to do is to encourage people to go out and buy more junk.
[c] Remember McCain said he wants a spending freeze. This will DOOM the Economy and McCain just doesn’t understand! We can’t elect him. He will drive us further into the ditch! Please go NYT and email it to others so it gets more attention and make comments and send this to every media outlet and demand they discuss it. [sic]
Discuss it we will.
The evident basis for this panicked appeal is Paul Krugman’s trivial October 16, 2008 New York Times article, “Let’s Get Fiscal,” which she sends in its entirety. Only critical faults/issues (still involving most of the article) are enumerated below. As you will see, her reiterated assertions actually represent Krugman well:
Let’s Get Fiscal by Paul Krugman — October 16, 2008
The Dow is surging! No, it’s plunging! No, it’s surging! No, it’s …
Nevermind [sic]. While the manic-depressive stock market is dominating the headlines, the more important story is the grim news coming in about the real economy. It’s now clear that rescuing the banks is just the beginning: the nonfinancial economy is also in desperate need of help.
And to provide that help, we’re going to have to put some prejudices aside. [1] It’s politically fashionable to rant against government spending and demand fiscal responsibility. [2] But right now, increased government spending is just what the doctor ordered, and concerns about the budget deficit should be put on hold.
Before I get there, let’s talk about the economic situation.
[3] Just this week, we learned that retail sales have fallen off a cliff, and so has industrial production. Unemployment claims are at steep-recession levels, and the Philadelphia Fed’s manufacturing index is falling at the fastest pace in almost 20 years. All signs point to an economic slump that will be nasty, brutish — and long.
How nasty? The unemployment rate is already above 6 percent (and broader measures of underemployment are in double digits). It’s now virtually certain that the unemployment rate will go above 7 percent, and quite possibly above 8 percent, making this the worst recession in a quarter-century.
[4] And how long? It could be very long indeed.
[5] [excluded trivia…]
[6] In other words, there’s not much Ben Bernanke can do for the economy. [7] He can and should cut interest rates even more — but nobody expects this to do more than provide a slight economic boost.
On the other hand, there’s a lot the federal government can do for the economy. [8] It can provide extended benefits to the unemployed, which will both help distressed families cope and put money in the hands of people likely to spend it. It can provide emergency aid to state and local governments, so that they aren’t forced into steep spending cuts that both degrade public services and destroy jobs. It can buy up mortgages (but not at face value, as John McCain has proposed) and restructure the terms to help families stay in their homes.
[9] And this is also a good time to engage in some serious infrastructure spending, which the country badly needs in any case. [10] The usual argument against public works as economic stimulus is that they take too long: by the time you get around to repairing that bridge and upgrading that rail line, the slump is over and the stimulus isn’t needed. Well, that argument has no force now, since the chances that this slump will be over anytime soon are virtually nil. So let’s get those projects rolling.
Will the next administration do what’s needed to deal with the economic slump? Not if Mr. McCain pulls off an upset. [11] What we need right now is more government spending — but when Mr. McCain was asked in one of the debates how he would deal with the economic crisis, he answered: “Well, the first thing we have to do is get spending under control.”
[12] If Barack Obama becomes president, he won’t have the same knee-jerk opposition to spending. But he will face a chorus of inside-the-Beltway types telling him that he has to be responsible, that the big deficits the government will run next year if it does the right thing are unacceptable.
[13] He should ignore that chorus. [14] The responsible thing, right now, is to give the economy the help it needs. Now is not the time to worry about the deficit.
THE TEETH OF IRRESPONSIBILITY
True science of course is first and foremost to leave no premise unchallenged; no reasonable question unasked. Most of all, no solution in science perpetuates faults which are readily proven by the most plausible answers to obligatory questions.
Moreover, these are such routine customs of true science that anything less stands out like the proverbial sore thumb. The tests of such material are not merely academic. Intelligent readers of important matters always, always, always must know when they reach an ostensible conclusion: have all the relevant questions been asked?
A prospectively intelligent republic understands nothing, and has no tool to intelligently rule over itself, without an affirmative answer to that question — or without an affirmative answer to the further question, does the prescribed course best account for all the matters at hand?
If the first question cannot be answered affirmatively and definitely, then the course does not even account for all the matters at hand — much less can it justly be said to best account for them.
The latter, most crucial question on the further hand, depends on conclusive qualification not only of all the points certifying the propositions of the first question, it depends on conclusive, unerring development of the prescription in question. All material of such propositions lacking either, fails to meet the necessary standards which predicate intelligible, successful government.
Before we look for any teeth in Krugman’s unqualified propositions, let me ask, does anyone think they see absolute solution in them?
Already, the irresponsibility he proposes — not only to continue, but possibly to exacerbate — has engendered insoluble federal debt which at this moment has brought us to our knees, and will cripple us and worse forever. Is there a proof we will succeed by the continued irresponsibility he advocates? Is there a proof of no other alternative? Has he asked all the relevant questions? Has he even answered them, if he hasn’t asked them?
What can we rightly think then of his unqualified proposition?
Or on the contrary, does it beg the further questions, and a dialog developing real solution?
If we presume that Mr. Krugman has well prescribed our way, it would only be for never fully pursuing the answers ourselves, because one simple, routine question exposes the poverty and flaws of that disposition.
Because Mr. Krugman has no answer, or cares not to answer for the whole question, he purposely raises only a partial form of it. He points out a reasonable and obvious, customary reservation against timeliness. That is, he warns only that government investment in research such as the Obama Campaign proposes may well not produce sufficient benefits within a period in which the positives offset the negatives suffered across the same timespan (10).
An obvious flaw even of the attitude of this purposely narrowed scope, is that we are seeking only to offset negatives. Why is it right not to instead seek to eliminate all obstructions or encumbrances, particularly if any obstruction or encumbrance is unnatural, and itself has never been justified?
Is it right that we prosper to the full extent of our willingness and capability to incorporate available resources into production? Or is it right, that all the while we remain capable and willing to incorporate available resources into production, that some artificial irregularity unjustifiably obstructs the whole world from doing so?
In response nonetheless to the one mere facet he raises, Mr. Krugman reassures us that we don’t have to worry about falling short of an expiring time frame, because the present downturn will surely outlast fruition of eventual benefits, if any — if we survive so long, if the eventual benefits are enough to offset the bad, and if we can even afford the products of those eventual developments after however much longer the failing monetary system further destroys our credit-worthiness.
These are just some of the further questions which Mr. Krugman’s and Mr. Obama’s propositions must answer for certainly, if Mr. Obama is to succeed not in delivering us from the ever escalating oppression of a system imposed for that very purpose, but prospectively, to merely succeed eventually, in treading water for a short while against inherent, irreversible, further escalation of indebtedness.
As I explain again and again throughout these pages, any purported economy subject to interest ultimately terminates itself by itself, irreversibly generating ever escalating sums of debt, until that system inevitably generates a terminal sum of insoluble debt.
In any such system, the real creditors remain the real producers of wealth, who are asked to accept a promise to pay for their production. A central bank merely creates the promise of the debtor at virtually no cost whatever to itself, and then, having intervened unjustly upon every such transaction, demands interest from the whole of the circulation. There is no risk whatever, because the promise to pay of the debtor is created without cost.
But because the whole monetary obligation [principal and interest] of all the currency [principal] so introduced to circulation therefore exceeds the circulation from the outset, it is mathematically impossible for the subjects of the system to continue servicing their obligations without re-borrowing what they pay against these obligations, out of the general circulation:
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What they pay against the principal therefore must be re-borrowed; and, by the nature of the system of unearned profit, therefore whatever they pay against principal is re-borrowed as a subsequent sum of debt, equal to the previous.
Thus to whatever degree the subjects of the system are forced to re-borrow principal to maintain a vital circulation, it is mathematically impossible to pay down the sum of debt.
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Whatever they pay against interest and must re-borrow [as new principal] to maintain a vital circulation therefore, increases the sum of debt.
Thus the sum of debt increases so much as periodic interest on the sum of debt.
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Therefore, because they must maintain a vital circulation, the sum of debt inherently and irreversibly increases at an inherently escalating rate of ever greater increments of periodic interest on an ever greater sum of debt.
Inevitably then, because this multiplication is in proportion to the sustaining circulation, and because ever more of the circulation is dedicated to servicing debt — leaving ever less of the circulation to sustain the true industry which is obligated to do so — inevitably, every such system terminates itself under an insoluble sum of debt it can no longer afford to service.
All the artificial sustention in the world cannot save that system from its own end then, particularly as the escalating rates of inherent, irreversible multiplication of debt become so monumental.
So then, do Mr. Krugman’s assertions prove the course of exacerbated, further deficit spending, itself increasing that multiplication of indebtedness?
After all, any certainty that we can accomplish any goals of research, development, or infrastructure repair, maintenance, or re-building, itself certifies that we are indeed capable in every other way to accomplish these things, but for the very obstructions imposed by the purported economy — imposed then, and still existing for such illimitable profit of the privatization Mr. McCain and those he represents stand for.
There is no other preclusive factor but this illimitable multiplication of unearned taking by those whose unmitigated gutting of our republic assures its mortal end.
What should concern us is who stands in the way of solution, and why.
Of course, the very reason that we the people have not already succeeded in these very same (unoriginal) ventures — now only proposed to ultimately succeed by artificial intervention — is the artificial deterioration which “the economy” has already imposed upon us.
Truly free enterprise, free of this incredible predation, would long ago have solved these problems. In fact I myself am well aware of substantial technological innovations waiting already for many years to provide their benefits to us, which are stymied wholly and singularly by lack of funding, purposely denied those existent achievements only so that those who have not developed them can “own” them.
Nonetheless, while “investors” readily cheat innovation of every cent they can — only because we the people ostensibly deny ourselves sustainable funding, free of usury and further predation — now these same artificially “aided” developments, intentionally crippled by the other hand, are supposed to potentialize their success as the very underlying system further multiplies indebtedness upon us. Of course, if we even survive the while over which ownership of already existing capacities will merely be fought, in the end of that mere battle to take further earnings from us, the whole subject society will suffer a drastically diminished capacity to afford further costs, such as the eventual products of those existent developments.
No one then — and particularly not Mr. Krugman — has quantitatively established that those “developments” will eventually — even for a short while — succeed in treading water against the inherent, escalating multiplication of indebtedness which those who claim now that they will represent us, refuse even to address.
In other words, if it were not for the very perpetual, inherently escalating artificial obstruction of our prosperity which both parties of betrayal intend to continue, we would already prosper so much as our willingness and capability to incorporate available resources into production would permit.
So we are intentionally not delivered our vital answer from Mr. Krugman or those who award him for excluding the very nature of the problem from the debate over rectitude. But to distinguish the difference, let us examine Mr. Krugman’s evasions, point by point:
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“It’s politically fashionable to rant against government spending and demand fiscal responsibility.”
Advocating fiscal responsibility is not a matter of “fashion”; it is a sacred responsibility, the abuse of which comprises the whole substance of our perpetual failure to ascertain or establish solution.
Fiscal responsibility is a perpetual obligation. But it is emphatically a perpetual obligation as we are incurring debts we are not paying, and passing those off onto our progeny, ostensibly for our own undeserved “benefit.” The only beneficiary of this irresponsibility is the privatized monetary system, for which the subject republic can only suffer to ever greater degrees as that system purposely multiplies debt not only all the further, but at inherently escalating rates to inevitable, terminal sums of debt.
What is right about this artificial multiplication of debt? When did we give our assent to it? What is legal about that system? Why would we the people ever engineer such a thing? Why has it not been rectified, but that people like Mr. Krugman stand forever in the way?
What sane republic would forever refrain from perfecting this imposed systems mere two fatal faults — inflation/deflation, and inherent multiplication of debt by interest — the latter particularly of which is the very cause of the present, inevitable, near term monetary failure?
Particularly then, what sane republic would refrain from perfecting that imposed system, if the republic’s preservation only required removing that unearned, undeserved, unjustified, and terminal taking from the sane republic?
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“But right now, increased government spending is just what the doctor ordered, and concerns about the budget deficit should be put on hold.”
Inadvertently here, Krugman himself testifies that the imposed system itself obstructs our success, for his unwarranted proposition asks for solubility which has been made impossible.
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“Just this week, we learned that retail sales have fallen off a cliff, and so |