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Tuesday, November 11th, 2008
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I’m neither a mathematician nor an economist, two disciplines in which I fared rather poorly, to be truthful, but I am good enough with logic and number to see that you’re quite brilliant at economic theory and that you’re on to something big. Very big. I wouldn’t let the “theft” of some of your foundation work bother you; it’s a big kudo to you that they’ve borrowed from you, though their conclusions or motivations be false.
Ron Boyer [6/28/2008 12:13 PM]
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TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 11 APPEAL TO OBAMA TRANSITION TEAM
Tuesday, November 11 2008, 1:12 PM
Dear Mr. Obama,
I write yet again, requiring to know why still we have no reply to our several further propositions of mathematically perfected economy™.
Why have I not heard from your campaign or transition team?
Fifty-thousand times a month people are reading on our web pages a prescription for absolute solution. If you intend to represent us, we expect you to answer to the proposition of mathematically perfected economy — not evade it:
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-synopsis.html
http://www.perfecteconomy.com/pg-if-i-were-president.html
mike montagne
Posted to both submission forms at the following URLs. Visit Obama’s ChangeGov site and reinforce this initiative:
http://www.change.gov/page/s/yourvision
http://www.change.gov/page/s/yourstory
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Tuesday, November 11th, 2008
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What should concern us is who stands in the way of solution, and why.
mike montagne
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EMAIL EXCHANGE WITH ANDREW GRAZIANO REGARDING SOLUTION
I try to answer as many good questions or thoughts as I can. Members of my private list so much appreciated yesterday’s exchange between Andrew G. and myself that I was asked to publish it to the blog.
These are simple things to understand once you get your brain around the simple concepts of mathematically perfected economy™. We all are constantly refining our perceptions of realities; and the present material is as much as thinking out loud.
As we compose our perceptions (as opposed to opinions), what we are concerned with, if we are to succeed, is not to arrive at a mere opinion, but to refine our understanding into veritable engineering. Principles are the building blocks of engineering; and, as we say, real (true, incontrovertible) principles are only abandoned; they cannot be compromised, because that is to destroy the principle itself. This idea is key to wielding the issues before us in a way in which we will succeed.
Where then do we get confused in reacting to all the alternate opinions which are proposed?
The first thing to do is to question whether they observe the vital principles. After all, if an alternate proposition observes principles which ascertain a fact of singular solution, then there would be no alternate proposition — the observation arrives yet again, by whatever route, at the singular possible solution.
So, we ourselves become confused when, to whatever least degree even, we leave the principle. I say this only because if I were not here, that’s how we would find our way.
EXAMPLE EXCHANGE REGARDING THE FINE POINTS OF SOLUTION
PFMPE™ responses inserted as in original emails:
Andrew Graziano wrote:
Hey Mike,
What if the bailout were used as seed money to fund new small businesses, and none went to the big banks, what kind of effect do you think that would have had on the economy?
Andrew,
We will be helped by expansion; and I’m just responding in these few paragraphs to your one point. But let’s consider all the ramifications of how we expand, etc.:
Existent debt will continue to multiply debt in proportion to the circulation; so, unless we re-finance all debt under MPE, whatever further growth we engender by artificial help against this process (which expression itself tells you we need to solve the cause), the artificially helped growth will fail just as Clinton’s “greatest industrial expansion in modern history” failed.
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So, we must re-finance all debt under MPE to sustain the benefit we are attempting to achieve.
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We don’t need any such bailout under MPE, because MPE will just fund all the new small business as it needs funding.
But yes, then we can just let the “big banks” fail as the natural consequence of their process.
700 Billion, which some say is probably more like a trillion or more. But conservatively say 700 million.
I think you might have a comma or two out of place in the last number.
With *purposed* federal and “federal reserve” distortions not only of the distress which they are using only to bail out the thieves, but of all the related stress (price inflation, unfunded near term federal liabilities, false asset inflation via derivatives… etc.), if you buy into the need for a bailout, you can only come up with impossible numbers to swallow. In any case, we cannot get veritable numbers from the keepers of the data, but we can estimate:
Let’s just start with federal debt (”national” debt): They tell us it’s 10 trillion. But it’s not just 10 trillion.
If it were, with a GDP of $1 trillion and no other costs whatsoever, if we could devote all our industrial revenue to pay off principal on “the” national debt, it would take us 10 years to do so — and, in my opinion, everyone neglecting this problem (perpetuating the present system) is obligated to do so, versus leaving this debt to future generations who will never be able to pay it.
But the real federal debt is far more than this.
Remember, Bill Clinton claimed to have balanced the federal budget.
No real industrial expansion — even by the time the entire dot com boom had collapsed, few ventures had made a penny of profit. All the “boom” really accomplished (and was needed for) was to replenish the circulation. (In fact, I explained this to Clinton when he was elected; and it is to my explanations which he replies falsely in his state-of-the-union address, that he had accomplished something which was to then thought “mathematically impossible.”)
No increase in tax rates or tax revenue.
And no commensurable reduction in federal expenditures.
Hmmmm. How did he “balance” the budget then?
Well, of course he didn’t!
He robbed from other dedicated funds such as social security; and I am told that there was a huge unpublished payment from Kuwait, which forgave us for tremendous pre-existing debt for saving them in the first Gulf War.
Let’s just consider the first of these irregularities, as the second cannot reliably be confirmed.
Several years ago, independent researchers estimated the robbing of other dedicated funds, primarily social security, left us with from 48 to 96 trillion in “unfunded near term federal liabilities” — an evasive term for debt. With interest, we can now estimate the upper end of that scale to be somewhere in the 110-120-trillion range. Let’s just build on that to accumulate an idea of how bad our situation *may* really be.
Add 10 trillion admitted federal debt to 120-trillion “unfunded federal liabilities,” and we have $130 trillion just to start with.
Thus if there were no interest paid to the privatization of the monetary system, with a GDP of $1 trillion that we “could” (we cannot) dedicate solely to principal, it would take us 130 years to pay off near term federal liabilities — *if* and only if we could forestall servicing private debt for so long.
Fat chance.
Some estimate the derivatives issue to conceal as much as 400 trillion in further liabilities.
Are “the markets” then not a pie in the sky?
Private debt is phenomenal as well.
So let’s just say that if we could just service the present principal of real debt we are presently oppressed by, it may take 500 years of GDP all of us now living to do so.
Of course, with interest further multiplying however much of this beyond our means, we can never do so.
But that’s why we must re-finance all debt under MPE — because in doing so, we will credit all debtors for whatever they have paid against the original principal… and this will erase these artificial multiplications of debt.
Assuming out of a population of 300 million, 20 percent elect to receive money from the government, it could either be forgivable loans or loans repaid over 20 years with no interest. 700 Billion divided by 60 million This equals $11,666.66. Maybe my math is trying to tell me something?
Funny.
In the last few weeks of 1978, I was researching a timeline which is supposed to be embodied in the Great Pyramid. It’s purported dates included the year of Exodus, the exact days of the birth, crucifixion, and resurrection of Christ, an unexplained 1914 date, and one or two concluding dates — the first of which may establish a beginning of the biblical “time of the end” in 1979.
By the amazing help of a librarian in California, I was able to acquire rare works of half-a-dozen of the most well known scientists to have measured the pyramid. These incredibly voluminous works pretty much correspond to their personal notes on how every measurement was taken. The usual accuracy ranged from at worst a thousandth of an inch, to as fine a granularity as a small part of a ten-thousandth.
This timeline is a theoretical system anchored at one end by two opposing inscribed lines in the descending passage. The purpose of these accurately aligned features was an obvious curiosity; and, given all the surrounding phenomena, it is natural to eventually suppose they may anchor a timeline, the dimensions/units of which would be given by the one symbol falling on the 1979 date.
The descending passage happens to align with the North Star Draconis at some specific moment in (if I recall correctly) 2121 BC. Hypothetically presuming the scribed lines thus anchor the datum point of the time line to this moment in time, engenders the prospect of the time line; and, to my surprise, all of the varied works concurred from this hypothesis indeed to give the dates given as the year of Exodus, and exact days of the birth, crucifixion and resurrection of Christ.
Quite phenomenal it was, to go over all the geometry and math and find these different works concurred.
At the resurrection of Christ however, a strange anomaly occurs in the data. All of the men whose works I was studying had come to the pyramid as confirmed agnostics. All of them left absolutely convinced that the Great Pyramid could be nothing less than the product of divine inspiration. And this may explain a very strange thing which, like your math, relates to the number 666.
The resurrection falls upon a dimension which quite oddly, is given uniformly as so many pyramid inches and “one third.”
I was attempting to determine the final event of the timeline; and, of course, encountering this hugely anomalous expression raised the prospect that there would be no credible further determination: what was the actual decimal expression? How many decimal places to account for or calculate by, thereafter? These were serious questions.
But the length of the Grand Gallery, which was to be added to this presumably “indeterminate” marker was *also* given as so many pyramid inches and a third!
So, all at once we had two dimensions which at first cast doubt that we could even calculate the final date(s).
The unexplained 1914 date however becomes a clue how to do the final calculations, if we take the number 666 to be a hermetic instruction to perform the calculations to three decimal places. (I had been carrying out my calculations on multiple parallel paths, with *a* path for the accuracy of every dimension given. [Thank goodness there were few critical dimensions.])
Of course, the idea I was exploring was that the timeline might indicate the moment of ultimate world monetary failure — a time which is said to begin a new order, not as planned by globalization of course, but as an end of a time of dogma and oppression as we now exist in.
In any case, you probably anticipate the incredible thing which the “unexplained” 1914.666 date “may” therefore indicate. The so called Federal Reserve of course was theoretically created in the eve of December 23, 1913. But it could not of course have been *put into operation* until the following year.
Even still, 11k per person and the only condition is you need to start a business from scratch, I honestly believe that would have done more for the economy than any stimulus or bailout. The key to a sustainable economy is creation and self sufficiency.
And I totally agree. The thing is, conversion to MPE not only provides your proposition of an alternate, superior answer to the attempted bailout… it does that in perpetuation, without cost to anyone; and furthermore resolves further multiplication of our existent debt.
By refinancing all debt under MPE, we immediately make something like 80% of our current income available to further prosperity. This itself would contribute substantially to creating and perpetually sustaining further employment and industry. But the further financing not only of that industry, but of its potential consumption — both without cost or multiplication of debt by interest — indicates the degree of prosperity which is immediately possible, with no cost or bailout whatever, under mathematically perfected economy.
So those are good points, Andrew.
Patrick Hedemark Comment
Great Exchange Mike,
WHAT COULD or SHOULD be done to fix all of this mess comes up AGAINST THE single word, WHY!
Both WHY it should BE DONE — and MOST IMPORTANTLY, WHY what should be done is not viewed as WHAT MUST BE DONE — is at the very, very, very heart of the problem — THE REAL SINGULAR PROBLEM.
The “ULTIMATE CAUSE” of the monetary issue — the singular problem — is usury or interest.
The word “interest” is both the functional source of dilemma and the immoral force behind its being forced upon our money as representative agent of the “INTERESTS” of the very men who refuse to accept both the WHAT and the WHY!!!
IT IS GOING TO TAKE FORCE.
PURITY OF PURPOSE + FORCE.
THIS IS THE ONLY METHOD.
Great read,
Patrick
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Friday, November 7th, 2008
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Rightful liberty is unobstructed action according to our will within limits drawn around us by the equal rights of others. I do not add ‘within the limits of the law’ because law is often but the tyrant’s will, and always so when it violates the rights of the individual.
Thomas Jefferson to Isaac H. Tiffany, 4 April 1819
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OPEN LETTER TO THE OBAMA TRANSITION TEAM, RE: MATHEMATICALLY PERFECTED ECONOMY™

Friday, November 7, 2008, 11:23 AM
Dear Mr. Obama,
You will not save our country by any means which perpetuates a purported economy which can only multiply debt in proportion to the obligated circulation.
I am mike montagne, founder of PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™ and author/engineer of mathematically perfected economy™ (1979). In 1979 and 1980 I provided the Reagan Administration with mathematic proofs his policies would fail either to arrest price inflation or multiplication of debt (which he did not even recognize to be a problem). In the next few years, I further provided the Reagan people with computer models which not only projected the tripling of national debt his two terms suffered, but which further projected accurately all the accumulation of debt to now, and the specter of world wide monetary failure which we are now confronted with.
The purpose of the models I provided the Reagan Administration was to calculate the maximum possible lifespan of any pretended economy subject to interest. You can still download those models, complete with source code, from my web pages; and the rectitude of their elementary, fundamental principles is probably the principal reason David Stockman resigned from the Reagan Administration. As the failure manifested of course, Mr. Stockman was asked to prejudice mathematic formulae to cover the Reagan failures.
I write however to warn you, and I will write again and again to warn you, that it is impossible to find the answer to monetary failure in the pretended experts and practitioners of a system which can only fail because it can only multiply debt in proportion to a vital circulation.
That is, the present privatization of “our” monetary system compels us to maintain a circulation so that we can continue to service monetary obligations comprised of principal and interest — which obligations therefore exceed a circulation comprised only of the principal.
As we are subject to a process of deflation greater than the potentially sustaining circulation, this arrangement is imposed upon us only by usurping the role of creditor, and subverting the laws of mathematically perfected economy™. That is, true producers are the real creditors, because, wherever further circulation is required, they must accept the promise to pay of the debtor.
In the system which has so wrongly been imposed upon us, and which can only multiply debt in proportion to a vital circulation until it imposes the present, terminal sums of debt upon us, a third party, pretending to serve us, tells us the paper/promise of the debtor is not good, unless this third party issues the promise on behalf of the debtor, and charges them interest for it. We presuppose that earned wealth is at stake, and that this justifies interest, but in fact that promise, like ours, is produced at no cost or risk whatever.
But the nature of this privatization, which thus obviously exists merely to serve this purpose of unearned and unjust taking from us, thus imposes a critical process — that of a perpetual deflation which can only multiply the unearned and unjust taking further.
That is, merely to maintain the vital circulation which we are thus obligated to maintain, ultimately we can only re-borrow interest and principal paid out of the general circulation. This condition itself, however much it exists, makes it impossible to pay down the sum of debt, because the processes of replenishing the circulation require taking on new debt, equal to the former sum of debt.
When we re-borrow interest however, which of course counted none whatsoever against former debt, we are taking on new debt. Therefore, because of the unjust obfuscation and usurpation of the relationship between creditor (producer) and debtor, in the privatized systems which have been imposed upon the world for this obvious purpose, the sum of debt perpetually increases by so much as periodic interest on an ever greater sum of debt.
Not only does this of course eventually and inevitably produce a terminal sum of debt which we can no longer afford to service (monetary/credit/”economic” failure), it does so even at an inherently escalating rate.
The greatest minds of our national history (Lincoln, Jackson, Jefferson…), foresaw this problem sir; but they did not solve it. Lincoln came very close.
I desire then Mr. Obama, to a degree impossible to express, to apprise you that if you choose to let the kind of men who perpetrate this crime upon us direct “our” “economy,” then you will only preserve the crime. I desire to have your audience, yourself, your wife, the vice president elect… by written word or discussion… that I can explain to you how *we can* arrest monetary failure in a day, and transform the present system of exploitation by usury into mathematically perfected economy™ in little longer.
If I had your ear and your heart now, by the time you took office, we could be prepared to accomplish both in a day.
I trust however, that a man who will indeed lead us from the events upon us by the only principles which can take us where we have to go… that such a man will understand he has to give scope to the possibility I hereby present to you. Furthermore, I expect he will understand from the very terms of this letter, that those now around you sir are not pointed the right direction at all.
I therefore provide several links which I believe your transition team will be compelled to research:
http://perfecteconomy.com/pg-synopsis.html
http://perfecteconomy.com/pg-evaluation-of-jeffersons-opinion-on-the-constitutionality-of-a-national-bank.html
http://perfecteconomy.com/pg-if-i-were-president.html
We have great things to do — things which in fact are the greatest things this country will ever accomplish.
Yours most sincerely,

“To find the players in all the corruption of the world, ‘Follow the money.’ To find the captains of world corruption, follow the money all the way.”
mike montagne — founder, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™, author/engineer of mathematically perfected economy™ (1979)
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Thursday, November 6th, 2008
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The first of these proofs identifies a cause of inevitable “financial” failure on a world wide scale, with the failure being avertible only by solution of a process which inherently and irreversibly multiplies debt in proportion to vital circulations.
Essentially, this proof thus recognizes how monetary systems subject to interest are obligated to maintain vital circulations comprised of principal, and perpetually deflated by servicing obligations comprised of principal and interest. The vital circulations of such systems therefore are ultimately sustained only by perpetually re-borrowing principal and interest as subsequent sums of debt — with this process perpetually and irreversibly increasing the sum of debt so much as periodic interest.
So long as a vital circulation is necessarily maintained in this way, the process is irreversible; the rate of accumulation itself escalates at an inherently increasing rate of ever greater sums of periodic interest on an ever greater sum of debt; and all the while, ever more of the circulation is dedicated to servicing debt — driving up the cost of all subject production and leaving ever less of the circulation to sustain whatever surviving industry is obligated to the escalating sum of debt.
mike montagne — pfmpe™ Synopsis
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MSNBC, WSJ, USUAL TALKING HEADS GET INTEREST, GREENSPAN WRONG AGAIN
Monday, November 3, 2008, 4:00 PM
Just days before “markets” approved further interest rate reductions by the private Federal Reserve, an MSNBC newscast largely blamed Alan Greenspan for the present credit crisis. The report blames Mr. Greenspan 1) for his support of deregulation; and 2) for suppressing interest rates for too long.
As chairman of this privatized system of exploitation, Mr. Greenspan’s direction of the exploitation certainly may be guilty of leading us into a terminal failure — but if, and only if, within practical bounds, we can prove that the privatized system of multiplying exploitation is in fact sustainable.
For what then is he really guilty?
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If it can truly be said that he is guilty for supporting deregulation, it must be demonstrable that the abandoned forms of regulation would have averted the present crisis.
But the very nature of the imposed currency inherently and irreversibly multiplies debt in proportion to the obligated circulation, because the irregularities of the currency force us to maintain a vital circulation by re-borrowing principal and interest as subsequent sums of debt. This of course perpetually increases the sum of debt so much as periodic interest, until the costs of servicing the ever escalating sum of debt are terminal.
Thus:
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no form of regulation short of rectifying the nature of the currency would avert the present crisis; and,
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if any form of regulation would have forestalled the present crisis, that regulation would have to exercise the lower rates of interest for which Mr. Greenspan is said to be guilty, for only lower rates of interest moderate the rate at which debt is multiplied into terminal debt.
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He cannot be guilty either then for suppressing interest rates, because lower interest rates extend the maximum possible lifespan of any purported “economy” subject to interest.
Thus in why he did not defend himself with these arguments rests the facts of guilt, for the whole while of chairing a process which can only faster or slower multiply debt into terminal debt, the only thing for a board of “directors” to see is that they are generating ever more terminal, insoluble sums of debt. Moreover, they have nowhere but interest to look for the cause of that multiplication, because interest is the only process attached to a currency which has obviously been imposed for this purpose.
So they know this: they know that so long as the interest they intend to impose upon us perpetually multiplies profit as it is intended, debt will multiply in proportion to the obligated circulation, for this ever escalating sum of debt is the very means by which they intend to take ever escalating unearned profit.
Why then did Greenspan pretend to take blame, when, unless the so called “Federal” “Reserve” eradicated interest, then no matter how fast or more moderately Greenspan (or anyone before or since) multiplied debt, our present, terminal circumstances nonetheless were inevitable?
Shame on you, for not knowing the answer to that question:
The whole purpose of the system is multiplying exploitation by the vehicle of “interest” — even if any rate of interest inherently and inevitably generates terminal sums of debt.
What Greenspan and the MSNBC talking heads are altogether to blame for then, is placing the blame in a false place, so that you might not perceive the terminal nature of their system.

Mr. Greenspan, if you remember, could not hold interest rates above the points he did, for his suppression of the rates all that while was to extend the lifespan of the pretended economy.
Why?
In the final stages of the finite lifespan of any purported economy subject to interest, reducing the rates of interest (perpetually) extends the lifespan (temporarily) by making it affordable to replenish the circulation (by, necessarily, re-borrowing further principal and interest, which results in a yet greater, otherwise less affordable sum of debt).
If the talking heads had their way with interest regulation, we would have collapsed long ago.
If they have their way with perpetuation of the system… well, we’re already spiraling out of control, with the only hope of substantial extension being impossible, because we have reached the limits of what debt we can afford to service.
This is the very failure which our computer models projected long ago; and it is the very failure which you can avert, and which you can avert immediately, only by adopting mathematically perfected economy™.
Today, because interest is the cause of failure, what do we have?
We have other countries following suit:

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“To find the players in all the corruption of the world, ‘Follow the money.’ To find the captains of world corruption, follow the money all the way.”
mike montagne — founder, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™, author/engineer of mathematically perfected economy™ (1979)
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Tuesday, October 28th, 2008
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In the very same way, your understanding of interest is critical; and if the age we are seeing end has a purpose, that purpose is that you understand interest is usury, and that usury is a pattern which much like Kondratiev asserts, collapses every system of usury until we solve the simple fact usury is a process of inevitable collapse.
That’s why Kondratiev had a pattern to observe.
mike montagne — in “About Interest, Key To The Cycle Of Usury: ‘It’s the interest, stupid, it’s the interest.’”
Whenever the legislators endeavor to take away and destroy the property of the people, or to reduce them to slavery under arbitrary power, they put themselves into a state of war with the people, who are thereupon absolved from any further obedience.
John Locke, 1690
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THROWING DOWN THE GAUNTLET ON THE GOLD STANDARD (AGAIN)
In a former Ron Paul Meetup forum, a forum correspondent writes only:
In a campaign of quantity versus quality, the so called Ron Paul Movement has bought up every conceivable domain name only implying whatever Mr. Paul and his family of “Austrian Economists” merely claim is “sound money.”
While even Benjamin Franklin long ago (at the age of 23) substantially invalidated the gold standard, and while my work for the last 30+ years emphatically invalidated Mr. Paul’s arguments long before he chose to persist in them, Mr. Paul himself of course has refused to answer once to these arguments in twenty years.
But so, twenty years of evasion therefore establish some unknown prospect or even possibility of returning to the gold standard?
To perpetually assert what is not solution is a perpetual affront to solution.
Thus I reply:
PFMPE™
In my opinion, these late comers to the anti-privatized currency movement, who keep advocating gold despite its obvious faults and impossibilities, are hugely at fault for perpetually infusing public confusion.
There’s a claimed $70 b of monetary gold on hand at the U.S. Treasury — and China, who we owe many times that, has spent much of the last year going after it.
Thanks in fact to the improprieties which gold standard advocates will not answer to, in fact we presently owe many times all the gold in the world. The mere dream of a return to the gold standard therefore is no more than the brain child of the brain dead.
But even more to the discredit of its inept assertions, the “gold is money” movement has been for profit from the beginning — to itself coin unconstitutional money.
Moreover, its ostensible premises were invalidated before it started: Ron Paul, Edwin Vieira, and its other heads were apprised so when some of them asked for my blessing from the very beginning.
All the monetary gold in all the world will not sustain but a fraction of present industry — even of the relatively little industry surviving the present, monumental multiplication of artificial world debt.
Gold therefore will not even solve our debts, should we be so stupid as to further give up the world’s gold for those artificial debts; nor would a return to gold even allow us to continue servicing those artificial debts: Present commerce, obligated to continue servicing present sums of debt, would immediately collapse if the world’s circulations were immediately restricted to what is redeemable in the world’s monetary gold. This preposterous idea therefore — already proven a failure a hundred years ago — merely appeals to simpletons too lazy or self deluded to understand the real problem and rectify it.
Incredibly costly tokens of value are not a blessing: They instead are an incredible misconception which has not staved failure before, and will not stave failure again. It isn’t the cost of the currency which will save us from multiplying debt. It is rectifying the nature of the currency — adopting the one form of currency which cannot and will not devalue.
So if instead we held fast to that principle, then there would not even be a need for the idea of a purported (invalid) capacity to redeem the currency with a finite quantity of a mere material, the quantity of which we have over and over again outgrown. When the music stopped playing under any gold standard — none of which have staved failure — just as it will tomorrow… there weren’t enough chairs.
Nor of course will gold arrest multiplication of debt by interest.
What you should study therefore is the people behind this movement, who are largely “Austrian Economists.”
They believe math cannot be applied to “economics,” not for analysis, not for solution, not for projection.
Instead of recognizing the inherent, irreversible consequences of “interest,” they advocate interest — which multiplies debt in proportion to a vital circulation, as it compels us to replenish the circulation of interest and principal by perpetually re-borrowing interest and principal as subsequent sums of debt, perpetually increased so much as periodic interest.
What do they want then, but to be the private bankers collecting that interest, saying gold will save you from them?
Why won’t Ron Paul answer to the proposition of mathematically perfected economy™? Because he can prove anything else will solve inflation, deflation, and perpetual multiplication of dispossession and debt, by interest?
For crying out loud, [person’s name], usury on such a scale is perhaps the greatest possible crime on the scale it is presently exercised. The wars we are fighting, when it comes down to it, are fought over usury. The American Revolution was over usury. And these advocates of a gold standard which has never saved you and will never save you, want to preserve usury.
Think about that.
This is the solution:
These are the issues of Legality and Rectitude:
AND THESE ARTICLES LONG AGO INVALIDATED GOLD, THE ASSERTIONS OF GRIFFIN, ETC.:

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mike montagne — founder, PEOPLE For Mathematically Perfected Economy™, author/engineer of mathematically perfected economy™ (1979)
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Tuesday, October 28th, 2008
NEW YORK TIMES FALSELY PROMOTES A FACADE OF GREENSPAN’S HUMILITY
On October 23, proving many years of false assertions itself, a New York Times article, “Greenspan Concedes Error on Regulation,” claimed:
WASHINGTON — For years, a Congressional hearing with Alan Greenspan was a marquee event. Lawmakers doted on him as an economic sage. Markets jumped up or down depending on what he said. Politicians in both parties wanted the maestro on their side.
But on Thursday, almost three years after stepping down as chairman of the Federal Reserve, a humbled Mr. Greenspan admitted that he had put too much faith in the self-correcting power of free markets and had failed to anticipate the self-destructive power of wanton mortgage lending.
“Those of us who have looked to the self-interest of lending institutions to protect shareholders’ equity [versus sustainability], myself included, are in a state of shocked disbelief,” he told the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform.
Of course, “markets” are hardly free if they are subject to a currency which can only multiply indebtedness into terminal sums of debt. In fact all along the way to terminal failure, true producers are deprived to ever greater degrees of just compensation for their production, until of course they are dispossessed even of the opportunity and their right to produce.
But the purported humility therefore is a lie. Greenspan isn’t about to support rectifying the system of its inherent faults. On the contrary, while he feigns apology, he means to ensure the perpetuation of that unjust system. Every president since and including Gerald Ford was offered the opportunity and way to resolve these issues via mathematically perfected economy™. None answered, and particularly Mr. Greenspan, not only because they all knew then that they were wrong, but because despite being wrong, they intended instead to perpetuate the irreversible multiplication of that unearned taking.
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Thursday, October 23rd, 2008
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Speak your latent conviction, and it shall be the universal sense; for the inmost in due time becomes the outmost — and our first thought is rendered back to us by the trumpets of the Last Judgment. Familiar as the voice of the mind is to each, the highest merit we ascribe to Moses, Plato, and Milton is that they set naught at books and traditions, and spoke not what men, but what they thought.
A man should learn to detect and watch that gleam of light which flashes across his mind from within, more than the lustre of the firmament of bards and sages. Yet he dismisses without notice his thought, because it is his. In every work of genius we recognize our own rejected thoughts: they come back to us with a certain alienated majesty.
Great works of art have no more affecting lesson for us than this. They teach us to abide by our own spontaneous impression with good-humored inflexibility then most, when the whole cry of voices is on the other side. Else, tomorrow a stranger will say with masterly good sense precisely what we have thought and felt all the time, and we shall be forced to take with shame our own opinion from another.
Ralph Waldo Emerson
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RESPONSE TO CONSTITUTION’S DEFENDERS FOR OBAMA POST
This morning I responded to the following ConstitutionsDefendersForObama post:
Gadzooks! Money Lenders have invaded the Great American Temple of American Democracy! I Say, Let’s Throw the Bums Out Lads!
I’m with you, [previous poster]! Looking at what has happened since Bush and the U.S.. Republican-controlled Congress decided to include The People’s Republic of China in the current abomination of DARWINIAN “FREE TRADE” and “WTO”. Looking at the resulting massive explosion of cheap IMPORTS from China, even giving the Communist Giant “MOST FAVORED NATION” status. Looking at the resulting massive literal EXPLOSION of our TRADE DEFICIT with China..
Looking at the Massive OVERALL Trade Deficit and the Massive exporting of good-paying AMERICAN JOBS, because of the Neo-Con FAITH-BASED belief in “GLOBALIZATION”.
Looking at the Massive increase in BORROWING by both the Federal Gov’t. and the American CONSUMERS, to continue supporting a policy of “LIVING BEYONG OUR MEANS” — i.e. “Eat, Drink, Be Merry” and screw worrying about paying the Piper.
Looking at the Massive increase in borrowing from China & other Foreign Countries that are also investing money from their “SOVEREIGN WEALTH FUNDS” in buying or owning shares of Stock in American companies.
THEN add in the “CRAP SHOOT” on WALL STREET and all the corruption, fraud and MIND BOGGLING stupidity of the BUSH Administration throwing the “MONKEY WRENCH” into everything — screwing up literally everything they touch …
Well, the result of all this is that you and I, ordinary “John & Jane Joe” citizens are S.C.R.E.W.E.D., big-time! Whether NOT having a “Federal Reserve” would have made a DIFFERENCE, I have no idea, unlike HENRY or other “EXPERTS” on the Economy and Financial systems, I majored in FINE ART in College, not Economics!
Putting on my ART CRITIC’s hat, however, I will give my “Expert” Opinion: I look at the current Sub-Prime Mortgage Meltdown and Financial “CRISIS” and I might as well be looking at a Painting by SALVADOR DALI - like the one with the famous “melting clock” — if I were making a Surrealistic Painting of WALL STREET, I would paint the Building to look like it was MELTING, like in a Salvador Dali.
Trying to understand what’s going on is just FRUSTRATING AS HELL! Like trying to underrstand Nuclear Physics or why in the world Republicans are going bat-sh*t crazy over SARAH PALIN!
And “All the Gold in Fort Knox”, for all WE know, is just plain old BRICKS, painted to LOOK they are REAL Gold! That’s MY Theory.
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Dear [poster],
Having asked the questions you have, you are not far from the answer.
You are absolutely right as well that the real nature of the problem is purposely obfuscated. Realize for instance that what is called “economics” is certainly not economic if it produces the effects you point out; and that furthermore, not only is the pretended discipline fraught with internal controversy, it is wholly bereft of formal proof or theorem. That is, unlike any of the true sciences, “economics” doesn’t even have a first precept, giving it the object or purpose of engendering what is “economic.” There is not even a single theorem which establishes the present pseudo science is even sustainable.
While still he sustained himself largely by complying with that pseudo science, John Kenneth Galbraith put it like this:
In economics, the majority are always wrong. [Less protectively, contemporary “economists” lie because the whole, purposed lie of usury and unearned taking is unsustainable in any practical implementation, and because therefore, no intelligent public would ever assent to the dispossession and usurpation which the lies are designed to impose upon them. Thus…] The study of “money,” above all other fields, is one in which complexity is used to disguise truth or to evade truth, not to reveal it.
Ayn Rand said,
“Whenever destroyers appear among men, they start by destroying money, for money is men’s protection, and the base of a moral existence.”
You are an artist, and you would prefer not to have to understand all the false dogma the mainstream media feeds us; and of course you hardly have to understand it all.
But because we are a republic, if we are going to solve our problems, we do have to understand the core problem, that we can fix it above a government so corrupt as to be co-perpetrators of what amounts to a monumental crime against us. After all, we readily understand that in nature, we prosper however much our willingness and capability incorporate available resources into production. Without exhausting resources then, the very idea that the whole of the world’s “economies” (a lie from its beginning) should fail itself paints a portrait of a wholly unnecessary and artificial failure. That a renegade government refuses to rectify the problem when we can (and have) prescribed exactly how to do so, furthermore establishes a testament that the problem is intentionally imposed, for a purpose — and that obvious purpose is the vast unearned taking from us, by artificial multiplication of debt.
If you and I were doing business together… perhaps I want to buy a painting from you… and I can’t pay you immediately, you might accept my promise to pay, particularly if it is based on certain conditions which absolutely guarantee that you will be paid.
Under the central banking systems which have been imposed upon the world, a third party, who produces nothing, intervenes on our arrangement. They say, “No, no, no, no, no… you cannot issue your own promises to pay each other: *only* promises to pay issued by the central bank have integrity, because they cost you *further* — they are subject to interest.”
Now you, being the producer of the subject property, are the real creditor. In the first case, you accepted my promise to pay, which was guaranteed by conditions I have not yet stated but will get to in a few more sentences. In the second case, you accept my promise to pay, issued by a banker; and, while *we* might define money differently (and particularly, as an inert, indestructible, redeemable token of value), and while this particular form of money costs the central banker virtually nothing whatsoever to publish, yet we presume there is some risk involved to the false issuer of the promise, which justifies my paying *them* several paintings to acquire your one.
Obviously, you and I are going to engage in less “economic” activity as a consequence of this substantial furt |